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[Illinest]

Alright so... not interested in arguing about the relative merits of operating systems but I need to point out that I've got almost zero experience with Apple OSes lately.

So I'm getting along with my web designing, learning the abcs of sql and putting the dots on my jquerys - I see that some of the job listings specify 'familiarity with Mac OS' or Apple OS or OS X or some variation of that sort of statement as a requirement. That makes me suspect that the company uses Apple computers and isn't interested in 'training' people on how to use a Mac.

I find that confusing. Unless I'm wildly mistaken (and that's what I'm trying to figure out) then a Mac work environment isn't going to be terribly different from a Windows environment.

Off-hand I suspect that the file structure is likely to be different, I know that the keyboard shortcuts are a little different, I'm sure there's different names and whatnot but I'm having a hard time figuring out what could be so different that it would present problems for a guy who just spent 3 years coding and designing ( and with an adobe software suite that should be almost identical between platforms no less)

In my view - I'd have a rough first day, might have some questions throughout the first 2 weeks, then it would be just another OS.

[Illinest]

BTW - this is the latest homework. Lots of design problems. I probably wasn't thinking straight when I made the paw buttons and there's a lot of styling problems. The lion logo would be cute if I did it up in vectors and didn't crop it. It's not worth the time to make this as beautiful as it should be though - you know? I'll probably get a 95% on the assignment and my average for the class is 100% so the grade is going to be more than good enough.


What is interesting is that I'm doing lots of javascript and jquery stuff. The faq, packages, gallery, form and home page all have new stuff that I'd never done before. The jquery ui had a theme that was a pretty close match for my color scheme so I didn't alter those graphics at all. In the other class I'm learning a little bit of PHP and I'm learning to build and maintain mySQL databases.

http://pauldhousley.aisites.com/imd312/final/index.html#&panel1-1

[Drakinar]

Macs in general and flash don't get along very well. Programs using flash (like photoshop etc..) take for sucking ever and will crash at times. No executable files will work (obviously). OS X is not user friendly at all (anyone who tells you otherwise is a fucktard and knows dick). Safari is unstable. Not into coding so I can't really tell you the differences there.

[Illinest]

I do enjoy shitting on apple but in this case i was hoping for some information about how its organized. I read about "finder" and "dock" and i dont see how these terms are in any way intuitive but it seems that its the kind of lingo that im gonna need to know.

I know shits changed a lot in 20 years and i dont even remember half of the shit i used to but i still vaguely remember a time when you had to know config.sys and autoexec.bat as well as some dos commands. I looked at the keyboard and i about shit my pants when i realized that theres two delete keys but no backspace, plus theres an enter and a return key as if theres a difference. I didnt get around to googling that stuff yet.

[lchen]

it's always funny how adobe and apple dont get along these days, adobe programs was one of the main selling points for macs all thru the 90s and early 00's. but then adobe just started selling pc programs and obviously mac has held a grudge every since.

[Saiyr]

If you ask specific questions, I can probably answer them. My adviser in grad school forced me onto OS X and I've gotten used to it and like it now. The file structure is like Linux if you've ever used it, but it's slightly different. It's very different from Windows except that names are case insensitive. The keyboard shortcuts can be pretty different, but the editing shortcuts like cut/copy/paste are pretty similar. The notable difference is these shortcuts use the command key instead of the control key. OS X also has the persistent menu bar at the top as opposed to each application window having it embedded inside like Windows.

I started using OS X almost 4 years ago now so I don't really remember much of the learning curve but I remember it taking me awhile to get used to all of the shortcut changes. If you have a Mac laptop, the trackpad is really nice. Most of the new features you see on PC laptop trackpads have been on MacBooks for years. Apple is pretty much the king of multitouch.

RE: Flash, it sucks anyway. It's still relevant, but a fading from view. Pretty sure I already said that to you before, though. I've never personally had problems with Flash on OS X but that's just anecdotal. Safari's instability is irrelevant because you can just install another browser.

Finder is basically just Explorer, Dock is basically what Windows 7's taskbar is based off of.

[Illinest]

That was helpful. I'm not planning to trade in my PC, I just need to have a clue about the terminology and how to work on it. I'm trying to look at videos too.